tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post6139599289663263484..comments2024-02-11T02:24:22.330-06:00Comments on Nonbovine Ruminations: METRA police search entire train over apparently unconfirmed report of a man with a gunAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04107127399494404366noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-7034935507664228362023-05-17T12:16:58.233-05:002023-05-17T12:16:58.233-05:00Nice shaareNice shaareIced Coffee Recipeshttps://www.coffeepins.com/iced-coffee/nitropress_cold_brew_13022392193.shtmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-20249768066746848412009-09-27T01:09:57.891-05:002009-09-27T01:09:57.891-05:00Um, no. An innocent person should not be liable to...Um, no. An innocent person should not be liable to search just because of an anonymous tip. This is America, not a police state. Or, at least it was. Wake up people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-14004973326552153552009-03-14T01:55:00.000-05:002009-03-14T01:55:00.000-05:00A MERE INVONCIENCE IS A SMALL TRADE-OFF FOR PERSON...A MERE INVONCIENCE IS A SMALL TRADE-OFF FOR PERSONAL LIVES AND SAFTEY. TODAY, WITH THE TERROISM BEING SUCH A HUGE THREAT, IT IS REASONABLE TO HAVE THESE OCCURENCES. SORRY TO INVONVIENCE YOU AND THE OTHERS. MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL JUST QUIT AND HAVE MARTIAL LAW.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-7603295717416914632009-01-15T12:17:00.000-06:002009-01-15T12:17:00.000-06:00Anonymous— I don't think we need to level blame on...Anonymous— I don't think we need to level blame on the individual officers themselves here.<BR/><BR/>As a police officer you are part of a system. It's possible for the officers to be intelligent, honourable, and careful yet for the system to do wrong.<BR/><BR/>Many of our modern security practices are of a highly reactionary nature but the actual security risks are not substantially reduced by these kinds of responses. Our security techniques are ineffective and cause enormous collateral damage.<BR/><BR/>It was brave of the officers to board the train and search for a possibly dangerous person. But it was an action which, if anything, *reduced* our security against attack. Our predictable overreactions allow people to exert control and any method of control can be a weapon.<BR/><BR/>The greatest challenge in security is always the balancing of tradeoffs. We could prevent all attacks if we kept the entire public locked up and in a drug induced coma. Naturally we all recognize that as a bad trade-off. That stopping a train and searching people based on an anonymous tip is less obviously a bad trade-off is only due to the fact that our media is so geared at overstating the level of risk from malicious attack.<BR/><BR/>As a matter of public policy we simply shouldn't respond in the way that we currently do. This isn't a problem with the officers out on the pavement— it's a problem that starts with our legislature, and even the public itself.Gregory Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11296230768351202971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-18067640758802126932009-01-14T22:44:00.000-06:002009-01-14T22:44:00.000-06:00I read your blog because of my ham radio interest,...I read your blog because of my ham radio interest, but I have to say this is the first time that I completely disagree with your post. I was a police officer for over 10 years. Police response to armed gunmen in public places has changed over the years. I can assure you, those officers didn't come on the train because they were bored or didn't care about people being late. They entered the train, probably fearing for their own lives, but did so anyway to prevent the horrible tragedies that we have seen with the increase in mass shootings. The first responding officers know they are putting their own lives in peril, but we have learned that in active shooter incidents, rapid response is the only way to save lives. <BR/><BR/>Illinois is only one of two states that doesn't have "concealed carry" legislation. If you've talked to the people near the DeKalb incident, many wished we had the ability to carry concealed so we could defend ourselves if the worst happened. Right now, we're sitting ducks.<BR/><BR/>Illinois legislators hate and distrust their residents. Kinda backwards, huh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-67102674188002027032009-01-14T16:03:00.000-06:002009-01-14T16:03:00.000-06:00A couple of years ago the local high schools (incl...A couple of years ago the local high schools (including my alma mater) had about 2 dozen bomb threats within the span of 1.5 months. There was a group of students in each school that found that they could get out of class for hours at a time while the bomb teams were mobilized and searched the entire building. This seems related.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537994532868437223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-6758344290403369602009-01-14T12:50:00.000-06:002009-01-14T12:50:00.000-06:00Heard it was a federal agent who had the gun to be...Heard it was a federal agent who had the gun to begin with. typical lisle police. nothing to do so they over reactAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33573016.post-67164962736490576812009-01-14T09:39:00.000-06:002009-01-14T09:39:00.000-06:00http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/02/family.grounded/T...http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/02/family.grounded/<BR/><BR/><BR/>To me it all comes down to common sense.dbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03145408235695127260noreply@blogger.com