I previously commented on Andrew Gray's call for the parties involved in this current debacle to take a break. The main feature of the discussion on the mailing list has been Jayjg's persistent attempts to pretend that this request is not directed at him. Andrew followed up in an effort to make it undeniably clear for Jay. Jay's response is to pretend that he has no past involvement. Jay's strategy here is simple: Jay's main evidence of involvement is to be found in the oversight logs, which are secret. Very few people have access to them, and the people who do are under orders not to reveal them. Very clever, Jay.
On top of that, Jay forwarded a truly odious email from ArmedBlowfish that seeks to compare SlimVirgin to a rape victim. What happened to SlimVirgin is she was sloppy and made edits she regretted, and asked her friend and buddy to make them go away. Her own carelessness led to her being outed. This isn't a raping. At best, it's comparable to having your car stolen because you left the keys in it. For Jay to endorse ArmedBlowfish's blatant troll by forwarding it to the mailing list (ArmedBlowfish is apparently moderated on wikien-l, probably for good reason) is simply odious. It is hard for me to express how angry I feel about this, especially as a rape victim myself.
Jay, I now explicitly join Andrew's call: Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
On top of that, Jay forwarded a truly odious email from ArmedBlowfish that seeks to compare SlimVirgin to a rape victim. What happened to SlimVirgin is she was sloppy and made edits she regretted, and asked her friend and buddy to make them go away. Her own carelessness led to her being outed. This isn't a raping. At best, it's comparable to having your car stolen because you left the keys in it. For Jay to endorse ArmedBlowfish's blatant troll by forwarding it to the mailing list (ArmedBlowfish is apparently moderated on wikien-l, probably for good reason) is simply odious. It is hard for me to express how angry I feel about this, especially as a rape victim myself.
Jay, I now explicitly join Andrew's call: Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
Good coverage of the scandal!
ReplyDeleteYou might be interested to view Wikipedia Review's comprehensive coverage of the scandal, all set up nice so it can be transposed in to a wiki:
http://wikipediareview.com/blog/20070802/comprehensive-coverage-of-the-slimvirgin-scandal/
I second. Anonymously.
ReplyDeleteThe escalating rhetoric is pretty alarming. It was bad enough that attempting to ascertain the identity of an admin was claimed to be stalking - a comparison I reject out of hand. (It is a victim's best defense against online predators.)
ReplyDeleteBut the claim that outing is the equivalent of rape is unpleasantly innovative. I hope this meme has a very short life span.
Jayjg's aloof replies to obvious core questions curiously seem
ReplyDeletelimited to a series of Talmudist
"Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?"
...middle management my ass, he is whistling through the boneyard right now...what's the reason? Perhaps my friends from Kiryas Joel can smoke him out.
Jay would of course get a thorough booting in any forum in which he wasn't empowered. He's a bit intellectually underpowered for serious discussion, but makes up for it by having admin powers and a willingness to use them, and by being generally cherished by the mostly likeminded power structure. But I don't think he should leave just because he fucked around a bit with Slim's contribs. He's fantastic for wikidrama and he'd be sorely missed from the RPG if he did go.
ReplyDeleteJayjg should be stripped of any authority he has because he does not support Wikipedia except to the extent that it is useful to do so to promote his pro-Israel, permit no criticism of the Jews, agenda. Does anyone think his latest round of spamming Wikipedia with "Allegations of XXX-ian Apartheid" is helpful to the encyclopedia in any way? Jayjg came to Wikipedia with a mission, and it wasn't to make the encyclopedia more accurate.
ReplyDeletei agree, this person should be manhandled.
ReplyDeleteThis character, Jayjg, very clearly has a mission, as you can see by reading any Talk page for any "controversial" subject that involves US politics, Israel, Palestine, Jews, terrorism, etc. His involvement (he seems to have complete authority and practices extreme censorship) in almost every such subject makes it apparent that this is a full-time job, not merely a hobby of his.
ReplyDeleteJewJig has a page about him on Encyclopedia Dramatica.
ReplyDeleteThe USS Liberty incident article, in which the Israelis killed dozens of American sailors, and then said "OOPs" is a case in point. Jew Jig argued against the facts presented by someone that was there, and also an officer of the USS Liberty alumi association.
1. I was falsely accused by Peter Cohen of authoring an anti-Semitic website, but he did not identity the website. When I demurred and requested the name of the website and/or an apology, Cohen and the editors remained silent. Lovely. Jayjg the eminence grise of the Irving article, pretended not to know who I was talking about! But that put the (false) charge of race baiting on the books. Clever. And Cohen then goes on to proves his disinterested mien by sarcastically declaiming “poor innocent little David Irving.” Right.
ReplyDeleteThat defending Zionism may be Jayjg's full-time job is an interesting idea. If it is true, it means he is making a living at it, and therefore a professional propagandist--not an amateur encyclopedia contributor. Surely that would be against all Wiki rules.
ReplyDeleteLet's say he really does work at Genum in Toronto. That is a privately-owned very hi-tech company and the president is a Jew. Jayjg does not seem to be an engineer. It seems to me (nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to do it) that one could check the number of edits Jayjg has made over, say, a month and estimate how long they would have taken to make. Add in a reasonable amount of look-up time, and see whether his is a full-time job. If so, it means he is nothing less than a paid “anti-Fascist” agitator and enforcer. Not kosher.
I came here trying to find out more information about this JayJG character.
ReplyDeleteIt is because of him, I find Wikipedia no longer of any use for research.
I look through the discussion history on Zionist topics and see he constantly deletes others.